Stumbled into a Soylent circlejerk at Tim Ferris’s joint

I admire the idea, but it appears to be being made out of junk food.

Anyhoo, my comment:

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2013/08/20/soylent/#comment-214219

I don’t understand why they’d go to all the trouble of making this stuff out of a gazillion processed ingredients, there’s already long established evidence of a pure meat diet covering all nutritional and energy needs indefinitely (http://highsteaks.com/carnivores-creed/vilhjalmur-stefansson/adventures-in-diet/) and you can get it for much less than $9 a day if that’s your issue.

Find a way to make a steak and egg smoothie with a hint of liver in a cheap and sustainable way – BAM – world hunger and 90% of neolithic diseases are solved, baby.


Update – response to “Kevin @ furthersociety.com” comment to me:

“The article you mention says that of the Eskimos that die of old age, they die 10 years younger on average than an industrialized country.”

This has been done to death, but much of this data is due to modern medicine – ie they have increased infant mortality and deaths from stuff western hospitals could sort out simple enough, combined with the fact western folk live longer under palliative care.

Dunno about you, but even so I’d rather live 10 years less than the average folk but completely healthy than have the last 30-40 years of my life fighting sickness and decrepitude.

“I would consider liver to be a larger staple if you are moving to an all meat diet”

Not really, it’s more a hedging bets thing. In the absence of *anti-nutrients* and such that are prevalent in pretty much every other plant-based food we eat, a diet of primarily muscle meat covers the bases quite well.

“meat also introduces acidity of around 2-3 pH into your body that takes more for your body to regulate”

Nah that’s all bogus BTW, it’s time to retire the acid/alkaline diet myths, it’s been vegan propaganda for too long and doesn’t stand up to critical thought nor evidence. Chris Kresser has a good couple of articles on this that cover more than I can here.

“I’m ignoring the idea that meat also digests slower and some health experts believe it begins the putrification process still inside the body”

This is another silly vegan propaganda myth. Meat and fat digest FASTER than carbohydrates, and the idea that they putrefy is utterly retarded, PLANTS are what ferment, meat is liquified in around an hour, plants can take several hours to digest and still often come out the other end in the same format they entered. Search [ meat rots colon gnolls ], great article debunking that malarkey.

“Also, for an all meat diet, you would also want to eliminate all non-organic, non-pasture raised and non-grass finished meats as best as possible to eliminate endocrine disruptors and other issues from added hormones and antibiotics”

I do agree that I would want my food to be as natural and healthy as possible, but the hormones and antibiotics argument is still shaky and lifted way out of proportion. A CAFO beef steak is still a gazillion times better for you than any modern “food” on the supermarket shelf.

“add that [liver] to Soylent and see what happens”

As mentioned in my OP, I don’t get why we need all the processed BS that they’re trying to stick in this product – I’m more a “remove everything until you’re left with only what’s good” instead of the usual folk who are “let’s add healthy stuff to crap stuff and call it a balanced diet”.

But I think we’re getting somewhere…

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